What if...

[Itanecrio]

what if avatars can produce offspring...
what if a Na'vi warrior, after the battle for the Tree of Souls, finds an inanimate avatar... and falls in love with it, though it appears only to sleep...
what if he keeps it alive, and it bares him children... and when his tribe finds out... exile him...

his offspring take to kidnapping females and form a rogue clan bent on their resentment and hatred of their foul fate... and bent on taking it out on everyone...

introducing the bad guys...

they only "come of age" when they kill a free na'vi or human, and can abduct a female to mate with... aaaand, they can mate with either; the na'vi genetics are dominant, so the offspring can always breathe and live, and always appear na'vi....

but they hate everyone, and just want to raid and kill and harm.

interested?

[Yanti]

Hi Itan,

Sorry but you will need to do a lot of explaining for that. Being of a scientific mind, I always want to know the backgrounds...*cough*

First: no reason avatars should not produce offspring. As far as I know they are supposed to be "fully functional". So OK, but...

Without their drivers they are sort of switched off bio robots as I understood it. I haven't quite got the genetics and workings behind that, but then I have not looked into it really. So any reproduction would be an act of violating that inanimate form. I cannot really see a Na'vi do that, since the bonding is such an important matter in their lifes.
But lets say it happened. How many of them would do it and be like that. So, even with offspring that rebel clan would be exceedingly small. A dozen maximum? Means they would not survive long, certainly not over some generations. We also do not know the death rate of Na'vi populations in that hostile climate. The very young ones would always be in danger.

Next: going by Mendel rules, if then two avatars were to mate, they could have a human child. Well, theoretically. A human would not survive on pandora without breathing mask etc.
On the other hand the outcome could of course be a full Na'vi.
But again this all depends on the genetic code. How much Na'vi DNA, how much Human was involved in the creation. If it is not 50:50 you can forget the above, then, very likely, Mendel does not come in the picture.
So much to the biological/scientific side.

The other thing is your murdering troupe. There I feel you are "humanising" Pandora and you loose this connectedness and oneness with nature and everything. The whole spiritual and "esoteric" feeling that is so special about this world gets lost and you could actually play in any fantasy world.

But then this is, of course, a personal and subjective feeling of mine. I do not mean to make you angry or miserable. Basically all I want to say: if you go through with this, you will need to put some thinking and work into it to make it sound logical.

[Itanecrio]

Cheers Yanti!

Yar, there are indeed some pretty big assumptions that need to be granted to the plot-idea of What If... and it doesn't bother me in the least if the original concept fades away, and is replaced through this discussion by something equally interesting and engaging to write!

I guess at the heart of what I was trying to do, is to find a common-conflict. Something all our diverse characters can be drawn within, and need to struggle and grow alongside...

So with that in mind: what else (if the rogue-clan seems a bit too far fetched -and it is far fetched-) could we come up with?

I love the Itami [/random]

[Yanti]

If you need people creating conflict, well...we are what? Some 30 years later, so some of the original humans that were allowed to stay on will still be around, and maybe also some offspring. Again this group would not be large, but might be rather spilt in itself, pro Na'vi vs. pro lets exploit this place no matter what. Or something like that. So some would side with the Humans that come back and you could take from there to some havoc oder guerilla actions from either side.